Wednesday, November 23, 2011

How can I get my husband out of a cult when all my arguments against the organisation fall on deaf ears?

My husband is a member of a Korean cult, which he does not believe to be a cult. I have a degree in psychology and know a cult when I see one. Unfortunately, nothing I say can change his mind and I feel like I'm loosing him to them. He truly believes, just like all those other poor members who have sacrificed everything for the organisation, that he is helping people. I'm out of ideas on what to do next.How can I get my husband out of a cult when all my arguments against the organisation fall on deaf ears?
Is this the Moonies?





Contact Steven Hassan's website, and order the book, ';Releasing the Bonds';. You might also contact him for advice, as he was a Moonie at one time.





You might also try asking him what a cult is, and to study into what cults are and how they work; that it would be a good thing for him to do, even if he believes he is not in a cult.





.How can I get my husband out of a cult when all my arguments against the organisation fall on deaf ears?
I feel for you, I've seen two people close to me swallowed up by religious cults.





Try and physically remove him from their company for a short time, holiday etc, sometimes the shock of coming 'up for air' can do it.





Be careful as your 'interference' can actually spark an attack on you, cults/religions are like a hive mind and see you as a threat unless you are absorbed into their number.





Cult support groups abound.





Good luck. Here are some help groups:





http://www.cultinformation.org.uk/home.h鈥?/a>





http://www.cultfaq.org/cultfaq-counselin鈥?/a>





I haven't' used either of them so check their veracity first.





Above all DON'T be brainwashed, they will (including your husband) assault your character and self-esteem. They will make you feel as if you are 'evil' or 'less than' for not joining them. After they have made you feel as if you are either





a. Missing out on a great chance to be 'completed' as a human, or enormously succesful/fulfilled





or





b. Currently suffering emptiness and general bad stuff because you aren't one of them.








Then you will be expected to hand your life over to them.





Get away. Protect yourself.
Just because you have a degree in Psychology does not mean that you are objective or even fair for that matter. Each person has their mind set on their own beliefs and some individuals who use Psychology as a profession to manipulate others into thinking that it is all in their heads if they are stereotyped, etc.,also exist. If you love this person. Look into what he believes and then decide. Maybe you two are not meant to be. You can not force someone to change. They need to want to do that for themselves. A degree? Really? You should have been able to figure this out, unless you didn't want to.
Prayer.





If that is not an option for you, Intervention from his former friends and family.





If that doesn't work, leaving him would be of great benefit to you AND might open his eyes.





Peace.





edit: Assuming you are referring to the Moonies, most of them disappear and are not heard from again. They willingly sever all ties with their previous life to serve the religion. The fact he is still around, means he is hoping to sway you into his way of thinking. Run through the three steps above...the last of which is you leaving for your own well being. God hates divorce, but allows it for unequally yoked individuals. You are not bound by your marriage vows...to this lost individual. You are to be commended for staying as long as you have trying to save the man you love.
Tell him you want to join also. Then tell him you want to give everything to the organization and that both of you should move to Korea and spread the teachings of the cult. Then after about 3 months when both of you are completely broke and standing on a street corner in a small town in Korea you tell him you are pregnant. It will be a nice vacation for both of you and he will come back to reality. Just be sure you have hidden enough money to get you back to the USA!
If you had a degree in Psychology then you would have known your arguments would have fallen on deaf ears. The primary thing in cults is brainwashing.


I would leave if it is that bad.
Your husband needs to put your needs before those of his cult.


You have to give him a clear choice - you or them.


Otherwise you will end up a door mat.
you can not force some one to do some thing they do not want to do unless you can find some one who deprograms people who have been in cults.
sounds like religion in general..like u know when someone proves them wrong it goes on deaf ears.... anyways i think you should confront is *** about it.
More details about cult maybe a name please so we know you are not a troll.
He's a loser. Cut and run.


Otherwise there will be 2 losers.
Divorce his ***.
it seems like paternity?
why'd you marry him is the biggest question.
Pray
Is he a Mason?
Let me guess, the Moonies?
Which one? you want help post it!
Korean cult?





Do they worship Kim Chi?





Fermented cabbage in the Korean red pepper chili sauce, love the stuff. Worthy of worship.
I know what your talking about correct me if I am wrong but here is some info. I found this older article http://www.rickross.com/reference/ubf/ub鈥?/a> and the current website http://www.ubf.org/


Not sure why or how the moonies came up in some posts, most likely because you didnt explain too much.





Anyway, sorry to hear this is happening to you. And it is scary because it sounds like this cult is hiding behind christianity. This is why I dont like christianity... it somehow finds its way into corruption.... and yes, all are cults in my opinion.... any group or organization that demands strict rules and procedures as well as belief systems of anyone is a cult..... all are bad news.





This is exactly how Waco Texas happened with Koresh and Jim Jones in Jonestown where thousands of people committed mass suicide for their beliefs.... so you have every reason to be concerned.








Unfortunately this cult is probably so well hidden into christianity there are probably members right here on YA. So whatever you do, dont be talking to anyone or giving your personal info..... you never know.





I think your only choice is to leave the marriage and save yourself before you end up poor and devasted...... I am sure by now your ostraszied from your family and friends and if your not.. run to them immediately. Dont join for love..... you said your educated in pyschology.... use it..... you know this is bad for your head.





And your right... nobody is getting helped but those who are at the top of the food chain... guarantee they take most of the money, have homes in the Caymans.. yachts.. and laugh at the peons like your husband. Your wise to not believe..... so get out.... before its too late for you.





Good luck with this.... hope it all works out for you.
You need to pray about it, for if you do not have any belief yourself you can not say another is wrong.

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